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Onno Rietveld
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by Onno Rietveld » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:14 am
I have created a small demo showing the connection between Show Cue System and my X32. The new version 11.4 from SCS supports the OSC protocol to control the X32 from a cue list.
A single cue starts the song, unmute the channel(s) and mute the channel(s) at the end of the song.
Demo on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/Vw0XfesNW2Q
I'm sure I'm going to use this for our next play
Regards, Onno
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newlifedrama
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by newlifedrama » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:25 pm
Nice. In the past I've used a few hundred saved scenes in the X32, that has some advantages but many disadvantages. It is harder to "see" visually what all the settings in the X32 are for a hundred scenes. I typically have dumped a XML-like file and use Perl scripts to go through and modify them.
In the future I will try using direct control commands from SCS instead of scenes when all I do is change one thing.
Gary Tarolli
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New Life Fine Arts
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Mike Daniell
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by Mike Daniell » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:11 am
newlifedrama wrote:In the future I will try using direct control commands from SCS instead of scenes when all I do is change one thing.
X32 "snippets" are good for small numbers of changes (eg muting/unmuting several mic's, and/or setting fader levels), and you can issue "Go Snippet xxx" from SCS control send cues.
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GKL Rijeka
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by GKL Rijeka » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:07 am
This is great, but I have some problems when running OSC messages...
For example I create a message to mute 5 channels at the same time (in a single message), and it tests fine, but when I run it during show, sometimes it fails to mute/unmute all the programmed channels.
There maybe something wrong with the message packet size that x32 needs to receive via LAN or something like that.
If I test the cue and fast-forward to the end of the song after which I want to mute the channels, it's fine, but during the whole show running in real-time it fails.
The solution that seems to be working is to use mute groups with pre-programmed mute channels, or to break the single mute OSC message into 5 single messages that run sequentially. There is also a third solution - trigger pre-recorded x32 scenes with appropriate mutes (or cues or snippets - whatever you prefer to program to control the show).
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by Mike Daniell » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:40 pm
Could you email me a cue file (.scs11 file) that contains an example of muting 5 channels in a single OSC message?
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PetraSound
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by PetraSound » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:39 am
Is this control done via use or via network?
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Onno Rietveld
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by Onno Rietveld » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:11 pm
The control is done via network, using the "Remote control - Ethernet" port on the X32.
Kind regards, Onno
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PetraSound
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by PetraSound » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:18 pm
hi i assume this also works on Midas M32?
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sjwicks
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by sjwicks » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:26 am
Just finished the run of Legally Blonde at a local theatre and can report the faultless integration of SCS and the X32. Programming and Controlling the Mic Mutes has never been so easy (16 radio mics, 23 mics in the orchestra, 5 float mics and 1 mic in the green room for chorus backing)
248 mic cues ran without a hitch even running though a wireless router (used this so that I could adjust the X32 from the stage during sound checks etc.).
Has anyone had the same success with the Behringer X AIR XR18 mixer? I have managed to get the Midi side of things working as expected, but if the "network out" UDP client could work as well as the X32 or X32 Compact settings, then for smaller shows, this would be great for me.
Thanks
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sjwicks
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by sjwicks » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:31 am
UPDATE to my last post:
After a bit of experimenting, I can been able to control the mic faders, mic mutes and pans via the single usb cable and selecting "usb rx" in the setting section of the X Air XR 18 mixer.
Midi config info found in Manual. It's different to the X32 but easily understood.
So, one usb cable from laptop to x Air xr18 which sends audio and midi commands to control the mixer. Happy days ...
USB/OSC didn't seem to work at all. Maybe due my lack of my understanding of OSC commands ....
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