Hide auto-start cues (in 10.6.3)

[runawaymartin]

As SCS grows there is an ongoing dilemma that Mike has to combat, and that is the issue of the main screen staying informative without getting unnecessarily cluttered.

I therefore think that the request Bruce is making is an excellent one. Although he didn’t actually state it I’m assuming that only one cue list would be displayed on the main screen at any one time . . the content of that screen, ‘manual’ or ‘external’, being selectable by a button at the top of the screen. This would be a very quick way for the operator to check what is running. I can envisage that other buttons would be added as SCS progresses.

A while back I made the following suggestion,

If a Cue is to be activated by ‘Auto Start’ could there be another optional checkbox under ‘Cue Properties’ called ‘Hide’ which, although ‘Enabled’, prevents the Cue from being displayed on the main screen?

If that was deemed to be a valid suggestion then the ‘Hide’ cue list could also be one of the buttons that could be selected as a main screen.

Cheers . . . Martin

[Boswell]

"If a Cue is to be activated by ‘Auto Start’ could there be another optional checkbox under ‘Cue Properties’ called ‘Hide’ which, although ‘Enabled’, prevents the Cue from being displayed on the main screen?"
Good Idea Martin, I support this one!!! Having an auto start cue displayed in the main cue list has caused myself & others confusion in the past, I now try to avoid them for this reason. We try and find ways to make them subcues of the previous cues instead, with time delays if required.

I am also very aware of screen clutter as SCS evolves, I have most options/displays turned 'OFF'

[Mike Daniell]

A while back I made the following suggestion,

If a Cue is to be activated by ‘Auto Start’ could there be another optional checkbox under ‘Cue Properties’ called ‘Hide’ which, although ‘Enabled’, prevents the Cue from being displayed on the main screen?

Hmm. Seem to have overlooked this suggestion. I'll see if I can get it into 10.6.3.

[Mike Daniell]

Martin / Boswell,

With the option to hide an auto-start cue, do you want the cue to be hidden only in the cue list in the upper part of the main window, and still to be displayed in the cue panels in the lower part of the main window?

[Boswell]

Mike,
From my point of view, if a cue is auto start then it is the same as a sub cue and should be treated the same way.
ie if you have not selected to see sub cues in the lower panel, then you don't see auto start ones either.
HTH

[Mike Daniell]

Makes sense. Thanks, Boswell.

[runawaymartin]

Yes, I'd go along with Boswell's thinking on that one too Mike . . .
. . . . Martin

[Mike Daniell]

In the interest of keeping things simple, how about we make the option global, ie instead of having a new checkbox in the Cue Properties we just have a new Display Option of 'Hide Auto-Start Cues'? This single Display Option would enable you to hide ALL auto-start cues in the main window, in both the cue list and the cue display panels.

[runawaymartin]

Mmm!!! I must admit that I do like the idea of having the option as to which cues could be hidden . . . wondering also that if it was included under 'Cue Properties' whether or not that field could be added to the 'Bulk Edit Cues' list?
I'd be interested to see what other users feel . . . .
Whatever you come up with Mike . . . thanks!
. . . . Martin

[Mike Daniell]

I'm happy to include it as a checkbox in the Cue Properties - I've already made the code changes. It's just that when I came to do the changes for the Display Options I wondered if just having the Display Option would cover the whole request. If the Cue Properties checkbox is provided, then I can certainly add this property to Bulk Edit.

[runawaymartin]

I must agree that 'hiding cues' does lend itself to being included under 'Display Options'.
To accomodate the way that different users work Is it possible to have it in both 'Display Options' AND 'Cue Properties' with either being capable of overiding the other?
I'm probably asking too much now!
. . . Martin

[Mike Daniell]

Just to clarify this, the two possibilities I'm considering are:

1. A new checkbox to be displayed in the Cue Properties: 'Hide this Auto-Start Cue in the Main Window', displayed and enabled only for auto-start cues. Whether or not the hidden cues are displayed in the cue panels in the lower part of the main window will be controlled by a new Display Option: 'Show Hidden Cues in Cue Panels'. By default this menu option will not be checked, which means that by default hidden cues will not be displayed in the cue panels. (I wanted to keep this Display Option separate from 'Show Sub-Cues in Cue Panels', but if a user does want to display sub-cues in the cue panels then they may also want to display the hidden cues.)
2. Provide a global option using a new Display Option of 'Hide Auto-Start Cues'. This would hide auto-start cues in both the cue list and the cue panels on the main window. You would not be able to override this for individual cues.

We should probably stick to the first choice above, with the addition of providing bulk-edit control of the 'hide cue' property (for auto-start cues).

[Boswell]

I would go for option 1, I can't see a situation were a user would have a large number of Auto start cues and thus it is little effort to hide them individually. There is always Bulk edit as a fallback.