Incremental Level Change

paul3263 · Post by **paul3263** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:20 am

What do you think about the usefulness of an Incremental Level Change? This could be mapped to a Hot Key, and when activated reduce the level, of a audio Cue, by a predetermine increment. For Example F1 can reduce the level of Audio file by 1 dB each time it is pressed or 10 dB. One would set up an Up-Level and Down-Level. I see this used in improvisational set ups where the sound board operator needs more control.

jkowtko · Post by **jkowtko** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:57 am

Mike, I think the easiest and most flexible implementation here would be to add a "relative" option on the level change cue, allowing you to specify a relative db or percentage change instead of a target volume level.

paul3263 · Post by **paul3263** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:23 am

Right, Actual Volume would indicate a measurement of exactly what was coming out the speakers, where "relative" would indicate level relative to maximum output. So sense SCS defines loudest output at 0.0 dB. Increment changes could be in the form of – or + as –10dB and +10dB. Stopping of course at 0 and what looks to be –96.0.

jkowtko · Post by **jkowtko** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:48 am

No, I mean relative to the current setting. So, if you wanted one hotkey to ratchet down the volume and one hotkey to ratched it up, you set one to -5dbREL, and one +5dbREL. -- similar to pushing the Vol+/- buttons on a TV remote ... that's what I thought you were asking for and that's what the product doesn't have today.

paul3263 · Post by **paul3263** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:05 am

Yeah Thats it. As long as we are still affecting one cue at a time and not a global level change of all running cues. Like lower the level of the rain but keep the level of the wind. (of course the hot key can have multi sub-cues that would allow it to affect more then one cue at a time)

jkowtko · Post by **jkowtko** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:15 am

Exactly -- and because it's a level change cue, you can also specify the fade time for the level change (so it's not instantaneous).

Mike Daniell · Post by **Mike Daniell** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:05 pm

Seems reasonable. To clarify this, if you want to raise and lower the level of the target cue(s) then you will need two Level Change hot key cues: one hot key to raise the level and the other hot key to lower the level. And secondly, if you are setting up hot keys for these tasks then this implies it is a feature you probably require in production, not just in establishing your cue levels pre-production. There's no reason why you wouldn't use this feature during setup, but normally you would manually adjust the level sliders to set your preferred levels.

jkowtko · Post by **jkowtko** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:32 pm

Correct for me, Mike ...

* two level change cues would have to be defined ... one for "volume up" and one for "volume down". I actually did this for my last show (although I had to use absolute volume targets).

* I would say this specifically is NOT designed for setup but rather only for run-time. So, if you hit a hotkey to change volume it will not enable the "save changes" button. The "save changes" button would be enabled only if you drag the volume control with the mouse.

Thanks. John

paul3263 · Post by **paul3263** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:33 pm

Yes on both accounts. Two level change cues and this would be use during a production.