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Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 8:20 pm
by tocsin
Hi,

does anyone know if it is possible to fade midi messages?

Would be usefull because other software (p.e. Jinx! LED Matrix) or hardware video mixers (Edirol V4) can be controlled by p.e. control changes. If the control change value can fade from 0 to 127, so the crossfader would move within the chosen timespan. that would be great.

Is this possible? If not, i would request this feature : )

thanks

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:07 pm
by tocsin
No one can help? Is it possible and i am just missing the settings? Or is it not possible yet?

I know this feature from qLab and it would be great to have.

@Mike
Is it possible to implement this someday?

thanks

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 3:24 pm
by Mike Daniell
Yes, this is another feature I've been considering and have been doing some preliminary work on. Since SCS can't 'read' the current value of a MIDI channel it would be necessary to set both the required start and end values, as well as the time of the fade.

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:51 pm
by tocsin
would be great : )

i would be able to fade hardware and software by midi messages.

thanx in advance

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:08 am
by tuxmos
Hi Mike.
What is the status of this feature? It would also be helpful, even without the SCS the midi value before read.

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:44 pm
by Mike Daniell
Still in the planning stage, but thanks for your interest - that all helps weight the priorities.

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:16 pm
by tuxmos
Gladly.

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:43 pm
by StasUshomirsky
I would be interested in this too.

We rely heavily on show control to run our productions -- without SCS, we probably would not be able to do our shows at all! We rely on show control, because we have a very small crew and extremely limited tech rehearsal time to execute technically complex and heavily cued musicals and concerts. In a typical SCS show, we have hundred of Control Send cues that open/close mics on the Behringer X32 mixer, as well as bring reverb in/out and bring groups of speakers in/out.

Currently, I can only make the faders jump instantly to the required level, which is obviously less than ideal. If I could specify the start/end/duration that would be extremely useful. Thanks!

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:40 pm
by Edi_28
+1 from me.

I also have extremly cued shows where SCS is controlling the mixer (A&H GLD 112). For the moment mostly mutes and scene changes, but having the possibility to fade with Midi takes everything to the next level.

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:25 am
by StasUshomirsky
Since SCS can't 'read' the current value of a MIDI channel, then perhaps MIDI is not the ideal protocol for fader control. But the X32 mixer speaks OSC! Perhaps controlling mixer faders via OSC would be better? OSC can easily give SCS the current fader level, so the starting position of the fader is known. Then, SCS can move the fader from whatever is its current position to the required final position, using the fade duration specified by the user in the cue.

Would that work? Do you like this approach?

Thank you,
Stas

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:47 pm
by Calysto
Hello,

I've created an account special for this future request. It would make SCS extremely more powerful if you can fade midi messages. I'm not a programmer, but it would be perfect if SCS can fade every midi message (or HEX number) it gets.

I see it like this:

Normally you put in one value. But in the new situation it will automatically fill in a fade time of 0 seconds. When you raise the fade time you have to fill in the second value. It will automatically copy the first value to this filed so you can easily change that value.

It should not matter what kind of combination of HEX numbers you fill in, the software will calculate the fade values over time. This way you can even send note off, on note 20, over every channel if you like. Or use NRPN messages. (our A&H QU-SB uses these)

It would be really nice if this gets implemented!

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:44 pm
by Mike Daniell
Thanks for the additional suggestions, Calysto. I'll have a think about having two values (before and after) entered by the user. The 'before' value, however, should ideally be pre-populated by scanning earlier Control Send cues, although the use of hotkeys can mess up this logic, so the ability to manually set or override the pre-populated 'before' value would help.

I haven't previously considered NRPN.

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:17 pm
by StasUshomirsky
Mike, what do you think about OSC? (Please see my comments in an earlier post, above)

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:38 pm
by tuxmos
Hi mike. Is there any news about it, or a preliminary version? I could use the function urgently.
greetings

Re: Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:45 pm
by Boswell
In a musical SCS show, we have hundreds of Control cues that mute/unmute mics and control faders on the QU32 mixer. Currently, I can only make the faders jump instantly to the required level. If I could specify the start/end/duration of a fader move that would be fantastic.