Equalizer for Audio cues
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Equalizer for Audio cues
A simple 2 or 3 band parametric EQ, for audio cues (ASIO using BASS).
This would be a incredible time saver.
When theater plays are going on tour, there are are always some EQ ajustments for some audio tracks that need to be done due to the different room and PA.
Having to open the files in another software, or even another computer, is such a tedious task. Also, quite often, the person who operates SCS live is not abilitated to do this kind of work.
And why not create a Equalizer Change Cue. This would be fantastic.
This would be a incredible time saver.
When theater plays are going on tour, there are are always some EQ ajustments for some audio tracks that need to be done due to the different room and PA.
Having to open the files in another software, or even another computer, is such a tedious task. Also, quite often, the person who operates SCS live is not abilitated to do this kind of work.
And why not create a Equalizer Change Cue. This would be fantastic.
Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
Hi Frederic,
sound system should be equalised and it's phase (time) response adjusted thru the system processor, or if that is not possible using available controls on the sound console. How to do it is, I'm afraid, beyond the scope of this software and thread. Good start could be a few books on the subject of Sound System Design and Optimization
The other thing is, how much processing power, memory, lag (latency) and running code would such function take away in a real time operations with (multiple) audio and video playback.
Interesting stuff is that most of the digital consoles that support automated time operations (cue fades, like Soundcraft Vi series) do not support Eq or effects parameters change over time, with a rare few allowing only the Eq level change. Wonder why... maybe because it is processor intensive operation.
Nevertheless, time dependent Eq level would come in handy for some sound effects where the change of the Eq would suggest change of space or "where the sound is coming from."
Those effects could be also done with pre-eq-ed and non eq-ed versions of the track, playing linked / in parallel and controlled by simple level change cues (one track level up, the other down and vice versa).
sound system should be equalised and it's phase (time) response adjusted thru the system processor, or if that is not possible using available controls on the sound console. How to do it is, I'm afraid, beyond the scope of this software and thread. Good start could be a few books on the subject of Sound System Design and Optimization
The other thing is, how much processing power, memory, lag (latency) and running code would such function take away in a real time operations with (multiple) audio and video playback.
Interesting stuff is that most of the digital consoles that support automated time operations (cue fades, like Soundcraft Vi series) do not support Eq or effects parameters change over time, with a rare few allowing only the Eq level change. Wonder why... maybe because it is processor intensive operation.

Nevertheless, time dependent Eq level would come in handy for some sound effects where the change of the Eq would suggest change of space or "where the sound is coming from."
Those effects could be also done with pre-eq-ed and non eq-ed versions of the track, playing linked / in parallel and controlled by simple level change cues (one track level up, the other down and vice versa).
Nick
Kerempuh Theatre
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Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
Hi Nick,
Thanks for replying,
Of course, the EQ of the sound system is an independant and usually permanent process, involving spectral analysis and hardware equipment.
This was not what I was talking about.
When on tour with a theatrical play, we often have to ajust to the specifics of each theater.
The sound sources that are on stage (for example to output a cell phone ringer) are very different from place to place and are often problematic.
Being able to make fine tuning to selected tracks on the fly, would be a time saver.
Right now, we route these tracks through other outputs from the sound card to differently EQ-ed tracks on the mixer.
I would have thought that an EQ was easy to implement since It has been part of any DAW for years (and that equalization or even live effects are available on the OSX thing..).
The idea of an Equalizer-Change-Cue was exactly about the kind of effect you mentionned: where changing the eq of a track would reflect a change in space or any other effects of the sort.
As of now , I do create these effect using differently pre-EQ-ed tracks. It would just be as well, a time saver to setup these on the fly...
The more we can do inside the software, the more we are happy
Thanks for replying,
Of course, the EQ of the sound system is an independant and usually permanent process, involving spectral analysis and hardware equipment.
This was not what I was talking about.
When on tour with a theatrical play, we often have to ajust to the specifics of each theater.
The sound sources that are on stage (for example to output a cell phone ringer) are very different from place to place and are often problematic.
Being able to make fine tuning to selected tracks on the fly, would be a time saver.
Right now, we route these tracks through other outputs from the sound card to differently EQ-ed tracks on the mixer.
I would have thought that an EQ was easy to implement since It has been part of any DAW for years (and that equalization or even live effects are available on the OSX thing..).
The idea of an Equalizer-Change-Cue was exactly about the kind of effect you mentionned: where changing the eq of a track would reflect a change in space or any other effects of the sort.
As of now , I do create these effect using differently pre-EQ-ed tracks. It would just be as well, a time saver to setup these on the fly...
The more we can do inside the software, the more we are happy

Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
I would like a small EQ too, maybe with a "boost volume" add on
thx
Jens
thx
Jens
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Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
I already do this by playing the cue to two devices, both connected to our analogue desk (A&H MixWizard). Both paths are output to the same place but one will have different Eq settings on the desk. Now, in SCS, just use a Level Change cue to change the mix. I have used this in a play, where music is playing behind a door. It's really effective to change between muffled and open sound when the door is opened and closed.
Same with Wet/Dry on an FX unit. Set the FX to 100% Wet and run the Dry as a different device through a different channel on the desk. Now you can add variable reverb or similar.
You won't be doing this on every device so you will only occupy a couple of extra desk channels.
Hope this helps.
Dave C
Same with Wet/Dry on an FX unit. Set the FX to 100% Wet and run the Dry as a different device through a different channel on the desk. Now you can add variable reverb or similar.
You won't be doing this on every device so you will only occupy a couple of extra desk channels.
Hope this helps.
Dave C
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Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
Just realised that doesn't help with a change of auditorium, sorry. Still useful though.
Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
Hey
I did this in my running production and it works great
http://www.showcuesystems.com/forum/vie ... =12&t=1280
I did this in my running production and it works great
http://www.showcuesystems.com/forum/vie ... =12&t=1280
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Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
Simple cue-specific EQ would be a huge help.
Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
For us too. Not to correct PA/room but as effect for music behind doors or something. CPU's made these day's can handle it easily, don't they?
VST support would be even better! But don't know how difficult or costly that is...
VST support would be even better! But don't know how difficult or costly that is...
Re: Equalizer for Audio cues
+1
I run dance productions in which each performer provides their own audio file and this would save a lot of effort in having to EQ everything before the show in a separate application.
I run dance productions in which each performer provides their own audio file and this would save a lot of effort in having to EQ everything before the show in a separate application.