Midi Message -> Value Fade Time

[tocsin]

Hi,

does anyone know if it is possible to fade midi messages?

Would be usefull because other software (p.e. Jinx! LED Matrix) or hardware video mixers (Edirol V4) can be controlled by p.e. control changes. If the control change value can fade from 0 to 127, so the crossfader would move within the chosen timespan. that would be great.

Is this possible? If not, i would request this feature : )

thanks

[tocsin]

No one can help? Is it possible and i am just missing the settings? Or is it not possible yet?

I know this feature from qLab and it would be great to have.

@Mike
Is it possible to implement this someday?

thanks

[Mike Daniell]

Yes, this is another feature I've been considering and have been doing some preliminary work on. Since SCS can't 'read' the current value of a MIDI channel it would be necessary to set both the required start and end values, as well as the time of the fade.

[tocsin]

would be great : )

i would be able to fade hardware and software by midi messages.

thanx in advance

[tuxmos]

Hi Mike.
What is the status of this feature? It would also be helpful, even without the SCS the midi value before read.

[Mike Daniell]

Still in the planning stage, but thanks for your interest - that all helps weight the priorities.

[tuxmos]

Gladly.

[StasUshomirsky]

I would be interested in this too.

We rely heavily on show control to run our productions -- without SCS, we probably would not be able to do our shows at all! We rely on show control, because we have a very small crew and extremely limited tech rehearsal time to execute technically complex and heavily cued musicals and concerts. In a typical SCS show, we have hundred of Control Send cues that open/close mics on the Behringer X32 mixer, as well as bring reverb in/out and bring groups of speakers in/out.

Currently, I can only make the faders jump instantly to the required level, which is obviously less than ideal. If I could specify the start/end/duration that would be extremely useful. Thanks!

[Edi_28]

+1 from me.

I also have extremly cued shows where SCS is controlling the mixer (A&H GLD 112). For the moment mostly mutes and scene changes, but having the possibility to fade with Midi takes everything to the next level.

[StasUshomirsky]

Since SCS can't 'read' the current value of a MIDI channel, then perhaps MIDI is not the ideal protocol for fader control. But the X32 mixer speaks OSC! Perhaps controlling mixer faders via OSC would be better? OSC can easily give SCS the current fader level, so the starting position of the fader is known. Then, SCS can move the fader from whatever is its current position to the required final position, using the fade duration specified by the user in the cue.

Would that work? Do you like this approach?

Thank you,
Stas

[Calysto]

Hello,

I've created an account special for this future request. It would make SCS extremely more powerful if you can fade midi messages. I'm not a programmer, but it would be perfect if SCS can fade every midi message (or HEX number) it gets.

I see it like this:

Normally you put in one value. But in the new situation it will automatically fill in a fade time of 0 seconds. When you raise the fade time you have to fill in the second value. It will automatically copy the first value to this filed so you can easily change that value.

It should not matter what kind of combination of HEX numbers you fill in, the software will calculate the fade values over time. This way you can even send note off, on note 20, over every channel if you like. Or use NRPN messages. (our A&H QU-SB uses these)

It would be really nice if this gets implemented!

[Mike Daniell]

Thanks for the additional suggestions, Calysto. I'll have a think about having two values (before and after) entered by the user. The 'before' value, however, should ideally be pre-populated by scanning earlier Control Send cues, although the use of hotkeys can mess up this logic, so the ability to manually set or override the pre-populated 'before' value would help.

I haven't previously considered NRPN.

[StasUshomirsky]

Mike, what do you think about OSC? (Please see my comments in an earlier post, above)

[tuxmos]

Hi mike. Is there any news about it, or a preliminary version? I could use the function urgently.
greetings

[Boswell]

In a musical SCS show, we have hundreds of Control cues that mute/unmute mics and control faders on the QU32 mixer. Currently, I can only make the faders jump instantly to the required level. If I could specify the start/end/duration of a fader move that would be fantastic.