[Fix 11.2.4] 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
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[Fix 11.2.4] 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Hi,
I'm a new SCS user and have run into a few issues I'm hoping you can help with.
1) The SCS GUI has a bad case of flicker / rapid screen re-painting on my laptop. It is most evident when I'm resizing windows but also when I open a new window, click on a cue in either the standard or editor windows, or even just move my mouse cursor around in the editor window without clicking anything. Eg. I click on a cue to load it causing the whole screen to flash a couple of times (including the grey background).
2) Some field info text in the edit window is obscured or cut off regardless of how large I resize the window. I have included a few screenshots of this issue.
I am running a Metabox P150EM Laptop
Windows 7 64 bit
Core i7
16GB RAM
GeForce GTX 670MX with latest drivers
1920 x 1080 display
Thanks very much for your help.
David K
I'm a new SCS user and have run into a few issues I'm hoping you can help with.
1) The SCS GUI has a bad case of flicker / rapid screen re-painting on my laptop. It is most evident when I'm resizing windows but also when I open a new window, click on a cue in either the standard or editor windows, or even just move my mouse cursor around in the editor window without clicking anything. Eg. I click on a cue to load it causing the whole screen to flash a couple of times (including the grey background).
2) Some field info text in the edit window is obscured or cut off regardless of how large I resize the window. I have included a few screenshots of this issue.
I am running a Metabox P150EM Laptop
Windows 7 64 bit
Core i7
16GB RAM
GeForce GTX 670MX with latest drivers
1920 x 1080 display
Thanks very much for your help.
David K
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Make sure the screen resolution is proper for your laptop display.
Try turning off the Windows Aero GUI enhancement by going into Control Panel>Display>Personalization and change the theme to Windows Classic. Then see if this redraw problem persists.
Are there any other programs running in the background that start during the laptop's startup process? If so then I suggest turning off any unnecessary programs.
nVidia just came out with a driver update. Is this the driver you are using? Did this problem start after updating to this driver? If so then try rolling back the driver to the previous version.
Try turning off the Windows Aero GUI enhancement by going into Control Panel>Display>Personalization and change the theme to Windows Classic. Then see if this redraw problem persists.
Are there any other programs running in the background that start during the laptop's startup process? If so then I suggest turning off any unnecessary programs.
nVidia just came out with a driver update. Is this the driver you are using? Did this problem start after updating to this driver? If so then try rolling back the driver to the previous version.
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
The text being cut off does seem like a font size issue. If you still have this issue after following Eric's suggestions, try changing the SCS Font / Font Size - see 'Font' under General Options.
If still an issue, could you email me a diagnostic dump file? You can create this file by starting SCS and selecting 'Create Diagnostic Dump File' from the drop-down menu displayed when you click the Help button in the main window. The file will be saved in a folder named "SCS Dumps" under "Documents" or "My Documents".
If still an issue, could you email me a diagnostic dump file? You can create this file by starting SCS and selecting 'Create Diagnostic Dump File' from the drop-down menu displayed when you click the Help button in the main window. The file will be saved in a folder named "SCS Dumps" under "Documents" or "My Documents".
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Hi Eric and Mike,
I've tried all the things you've suggested and I have a bit more info for you now, but no solutions.
GUI Flicker
I tried all of Eric's suggestions and none of them had any effect on the problem. Mike - I will email you a Diagnostic Dump File now.
Obscured text
My screen is set to 1920 x 1080, which is its native resolution. I found that the obscured text is caused by SCS not seeming to like the Windows 7 'Make text and other items larger or smaller / set custom text size (DPI)' settings. I have this set to 140%, which works well with all my other programs. When I set it to 100% SCS looks good and no text is obscured, however outside SCS the rest of my program windows and desktop icons are microscopic.
With 'Make text and other items larger or smaller / set custom text size (DPI)' set to 140% if I reduce the SCS font size the font gets smaller but the obscured text is not revealed.
Also, prior to messing with the SCS font size settings, the default size was 5pt. After messing with the settings SCS now thinks its default font size is 8pt.
I've tried all the things you've suggested and I have a bit more info for you now, but no solutions.
GUI Flicker
I tried all of Eric's suggestions and none of them had any effect on the problem. Mike - I will email you a Diagnostic Dump File now.
Obscured text
My screen is set to 1920 x 1080, which is its native resolution. I found that the obscured text is caused by SCS not seeming to like the Windows 7 'Make text and other items larger or smaller / set custom text size (DPI)' settings. I have this set to 140%, which works well with all my other programs. When I set it to 100% SCS looks good and no text is obscured, however outside SCS the rest of my program windows and desktop icons are microscopic.
With 'Make text and other items larger or smaller / set custom text size (DPI)' set to 140% if I reduce the SCS font size the font gets smaller but the obscured text is not revealed.
Also, prior to messing with the SCS font size settings, the default size was 5pt. After messing with the settings SCS now thinks its default font size is 8pt.
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Thanks for the diagnostic dump file. I will need to do more work on making SCS fully DPI-aware. The font scaling factor shown in the dump file appears to be incorrect for font sizing of 140%, so I'll look into that. Unfortunately I can't promise a quick solution.
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
I confirm that the DPI issue is a bug and that currently SCS requires the Windows display setting to be 100%, not higher (eg not 125%). To correct this bug, SCS needs to be modified to use the scaling factor in determining window sizes, and individual text and control positions and sizes.
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Hi Mike,
Thanks for looking into the scaling problem. Hopefully it's not too much of a pain to fix.
Do you have any ideas about the re-painting issue? It seems to be unrelated to the scaling problem, as when I set the windows display setting to 100% the screen still flickers.
So far the core software is working brilliantly and I'm looking forward to using it on an upcoming project.
Thanks for looking into the scaling problem. Hopefully it's not too much of a pain to fix.
Do you have any ideas about the re-painting issue? It seems to be unrelated to the scaling problem, as when I set the windows display setting to 100% the screen still flickers.
So far the core software is working brilliantly and I'm looking forward to using it on an upcoming project.
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Don't know about the GUI flickering issue, David - you're machine certainly seems well-spec'd for SCS. Do you have any screen capture software (eg Camtasia) that you can use to show this flicker? Alternatively, just a video taken using a smart phone or camera will do.
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Re: 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Hi Mike,
I'll email you a link to a short clip later today.
Thanks,
I'll email you a link to a short clip later today.
Thanks,
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Re: [Fix 11.2.4] 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
Text being cut-off has been fixed in 11.2.4 with the addition of DPI-aware processing.
Flickering seems to be somehow related to the PC being used, even though this is a high-spec PC. Flickering occurs (on that PC) when tooltips are displayed, so in 11.2.4 there is now an option to turn off tooltips. Some other flickering scenarios were also reported by David, and some of these may be minimized by other changes in 11.2.4.
Flickering seems to be somehow related to the PC being used, even though this is a high-spec PC. Flickering occurs (on that PC) when tooltips are displayed, so in 11.2.4 there is now an option to turn off tooltips. Some other flickering scenarios were also reported by David, and some of these may be minimized by other changes in 11.2.4.
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Re: [Fix 11.2.4] 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
I have the same problem with scs (latest version).I click on a cue to load it causing the whole screen to flash a couple of times (including the grey background).
I have Windows 8 Nvidia and Intel graphic board (double ... I think ...).
I tried all hints you recommend, with no luck.
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Re: [Fix 11.2.4] 11.2.3 GUI Flicker and cut off text
[/quote]I click on a cue to load it causing the whole screen to flash a couple of times (including the grey background).
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Same problem with latest version and Windows 8.
Nvidia and Inter graphic board (double ... I think)
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Same problem with latest version and Windows 8.
Nvidia and Inter graphic board (double ... I think)