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SM-S output delays

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:06 pm
by biggazdixon
Has the delay feature available in SM-S been implemented yet as discussed on the Future Directions forum? In particular is it intended to allow cross fades between output delay/level snapshots to place sounds win a 'spacial map'. Ideally I suspect a matrix with level and delay at each crosspoint would be the most flexible solution.

Re: SM-S output delays

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:25 am
by Mike Daniell
There are quite a few other new features I'm currently working on, so I regret this hasn't bubbled up to the top of the list yet. What you are suggesting with the matrix, etc would certainly be useful but the detailed design and implementation would take a while.

Thinking this through I could provide an SM-S Command Cue where you could enter any valid SM-S 'SET' command and SCS would pass that straight through. Many SM-S commands require a CHANNEL to be nominated, such as i4 (input 4), o2 (output 2), px2.3 (crosspoint playback 2, output 3). In this new 'SM-S Command Cue' you could specify SCS cue numbers and device names and SCS would derive from these the relevant SM-S CHANNEL numbers. I haven't worked this out completely but it should be feasible. Would this 'SM-S Command Cue' be useful?

Re: SM-S output delays

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:09 am
by biggazdixon
I'm not really sure I understand what the new SCS cue would be specifying, routing, level, delay or all three? If so then that would be useful, for example, as an actor moves to DSL their mic could be focused on them using delay and level rather than level alone. Cross fading between level/delay settings over time so that the sound moves between positions is something I'm really interested in, would that be possible with the new cue that you are suggesting?

Thanks for taking the time to discuss these potential inclusions by the way!

Re: SM-S output delays

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:08 am
by Mike Daniell
biggazdixon wrote:for example, as an actor moves to DSL their mic could be focused on them using delay and level rather than level alone. Cross fading between level/delay settings over time so that the sound moves between positions is something I'm really interested in, would that be possible with the new cue that you are suggesting?
To implement the cross-fade of the level you should use an SCS Level Change cue so that SCS 'knows' the required levels of each of the outputs. But as a sub-cue to that Level Change cue you could use the proposed SM-S Command cue to adjust the delay. I don't know if you're familiar with SM-S commands but the the specification of the 'set delay' can be found here: Set Channel Delay. I haven't tried this myself, but from my understanding of this you should be able to adjust the delay of the input channel (ie the actor's mic channel) over a nominated time (the 'fadetime').

Re: SM-S output delays

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:26 pm
by biggazdixon
I have to admit that I'm not too familiar with SM-S commands at all although I have an understanding of what it is capable of and was hoping that SCS would provide a more intuitive interface, the existing SET commands seem more like writing code.

I see what you mean now that using the existing level change cue with the new delay change command would allow me to achieve what I was proposing so yes, that new cue would be very welcome.

Re: SM-S output delays

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:55 am
by biggazdixon
Hi Mike,
Wow, over five years since my last post above, time flies!

I thought I'd just say that this is still a feature I'd like to see incorporated, I know that SM-S has such a matrix with delay at the cross points so it'd be great to have control from within SCS.

Regards